“How much longer will people wear nazi armbands? And dye their hair? Safety pins and spray their clothes? Talk about anarchy, fascism and boredom. When you don’t know nothing. But you don’t really care. ” First verse in How Much Longer. How much before their time they where. Already in 1977 they had the guts to question the punk dogma. Sniffing Glues Mark Perry had been there done that for over a year and saw what was to come. Another stale youth culture trapped in how you should look and think to be “punk”. Fair enough he question himself too: I don’t know nothing. Soon enough Mark moved fast forward with ATV to a more experimental stage bounding friendship with the likes of Throbbing Gristles Genesis P. Orridge(who lately got himself a pair of brand new tits from his wife). Â
A solid two sider who’ve been following me since spring 1978. Great looking front sleeve too!
Country: UK
Year: 1977
Label: Deptford Fun City
Format: 7″
Songs:
How Much Longer.mp3
You Bastard.mp3
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Was just about to post this wonderful 7″ myself :-) One of my earliest Punk loves. Always liked the energy of early AT. Still couldn’t help tonotice that when you compared these bands to the uncompromising power of 1977s “Let there be Rock”, all the Punks bands looked pale. ;-)
Ha ha a coincidence one again :). Yeah or Iggys Raw Power LP a couple of years earlier ;).
Aside from 70s punk, I also like listen to a ton of 80s metal and 70s hard rock, but still cannot sit through a full listening to one AC/DC lp. Even one song can seem like an eternity, nothing ever happens. They are all like Kiss or Slade slowed down to a crawl (two bands I do like).
Wanna hear some bad ass metal, gotta hear the Lord Weird Slough Feg, best band in the country. I am sure they are on youtube. . .
Gött Pjotr!
This was one the first punksingles I’ve bought back in the daze. These two trax together with the Action Time Vision-tune are probably all ya want from ATV? Didn’t like the first LP that much so I sold it pretty quick, so I really cant remember if there was any more good songs from these bastards? But this was and still is a lovely little piece of wax!
Brilliant…
How come I bought two copies of this record way back when and have two different versions of YOu Bastard…can anyone tell me why. This is no joke. I fucking love it….it blows all that boring metal crap out of the water…kaboom. :)
Swastikas, nazi amrbands rules! Alternative T.V. are lame pinkos.
Hey Jay, you’re godamn right that there was two versions of the Bastard song. “My” version must have been the other one with a wacky guitar wail in the background of the intro and chorus. But the covers are identical? How did you find the 2 different versions?
I had one version, a friend bought one and we found it to be different. I tracked down another copy by looking at the total time of the song on the record. Why is that??? Why did they do 2 versions? Just curious to know. I do prefer this version better.
There are alternate takes of both tunes on the reissue of the first lp!
I heard “How Much Longer” on a comp. years ago and always thought it was top notch, but I never heard the B side for it. Thanks a ton for this, great post.
You can find the orignal 7” over at the excellent the KYPP site.
http://www.killyourpetpuppy.co.uk/news/?p=891
PS Sepan, you also need “Life” by ATV. Also an great single
Thanks Dave! Fun to hear the alternate versions. Though the original is available here too :).
Ha ha sorry Dave! Just took a look in 45 Revolutions and discovered that the copy I have here is the rarer alternative version. I must say I prefer this over the original version.
Hahaha, since this is also the version I have and it’s rarer, I like it better too. Haha. Honestly, the other take has a bit more punch. It’s better.
The original version of You Bastard has an extremely annoying guitar melody and How Much Longer doesn’t have the drive it has here.
i just watched Jubilee again last night for the lovely toyah willcox (robert fripp you lucky bloke!) anyway i came here to your site for some adam and the ants and i found this single awesome it “filled up my cravings” so to speak thanx pete pete!
I’m ashamed to say that I never took any notice of this band because of their connection with Gong/Here & Now, etc. But this single is fantastic! So simple & catchy, as all punk should be. I did like the song “Action, Time & Vision,” though.
One of those band I’ve only read about. Good to finally hear them. Well, I heard Billy Childish covering Action Time Vision, but it’s not the same thing.
I’ve got an Action Time Vision t-shirt. I wear it around town. I got stopped by a an old punky type. He said it was the coolest shirt he’d ever seen. He was very pissed. Just thought I’d share that with you.
Damn, I always get these guys mixed up with the Television Personalities. I had never heard of this record until I came across this page, and I am very glad that I did!
Glad such a “common” record was new to you :).
A band of extremes for me, LIFE by ATV has to be one of my fav punk songs of all time. But the album Vibing Up The Senile Man Part One (1978) is awful to the point of being embarrassing – they tried to go all arty and they made total fools of themselves. Some punk bands did slow arty experimental tracks a few years into their careers, and it somehow worked – but not ATV!
The above is a fantastic single for 1977 – at that point they were about a year or 18 mnths. ahead of their time I think. They really had something going for a short time – shame they threw it all away.